Question: for web site metrics, what is a sound, open source, privacy-respecting option?
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@andypiper Sounds like you just want a log analyser. I wish I knew of a good one that published its latest release this century.
@bodil (and @neil @ConnyDuck) right, that's something that I considered, but I don't think log analytics is a quick option without a lift-and-shift of various elements e.g. blog is Hugo on GH pages, site is Dockerized elsewhere; in both cases I don't currently have access to web server logs. Some of these other tools *claim* they can run w/o cookies...
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@bodil (and @neil @ConnyDuck) right, that's something that I considered, but I don't think log analytics is a quick option without a lift-and-shift of various elements e.g. blog is Hugo on GH pages, site is Dockerized elsewhere; in both cases I don't currently have access to web server logs. Some of these other tools *claim* they can run w/o cookies...
That makes sense!
I've seen some say that the don't use cookies, but they do use JavaScript (which is obviously on the user's device), but frankly I suspect that the ePrivacy risk is incredibly low...
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That makes sense!
I've seen some say that the don't use cookies, but they do use JavaScript (which is obviously on the user's device), but frankly I suspect that the ePrivacy risk is incredibly low...
@neil @andypiper @bodil @ConnyDuck I'm reminded of this engineering FAQ from Plausible on server-side logs: https://plausible.io/blog/server-log-analysis#problems-with-server-logs
more on how they count visitors (and GDPR compliance): https://plausible.io/data-policy#how-we-count-unique-users-without-cookies
hash(daily_salt + website_domain + ip_address + user_agent)
local storage opt-out demo CSS: https://plausible.io/docs/excluding-localstorage
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@neil @andypiper @bodil @ConnyDuck I'm reminded of this engineering FAQ from Plausible on server-side logs: https://plausible.io/blog/server-log-analysis#problems-with-server-logs
more on how they count visitors (and GDPR compliance): https://plausible.io/data-policy#how-we-count-unique-users-without-cookies
hash(daily_salt + website_domain + ip_address + user_agent)
local storage opt-out demo CSS: https://plausible.io/docs/excluding-localstorage
@risottobias @neil @bodil @ConnyDuck I had Plausible in my head initially, and then found others (via EU Alternatives, which I know Plausible is on as well). I shall take a look there too.
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@risottobias @neil @bodil @ConnyDuck I had Plausible in my head initially, and then found others (via EU Alternatives, which I know Plausible is on as well). I shall take a look there too.
@andypiper @risottobias @neil @ConnyDuck My recommendation would definitely be Plausible, from past experience, when simple log analysis isn't an option.
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Question: for web site metrics, what is a sound, open source, privacy-respecting option? goal is to be able to see which pages are hit, blog stats etc, that's all. Any views on e.g. Umami vs Matomo vs Offen (or alternatives)?
(for a hosted solution, a plan for non-profit usage would be good)
For simple statistics I use #GoatCounter. It's simple and #GPDR compatible by default. I also have experience with #Matomo. It's not GPDR compatible by default. You have to change the settings to anonymize data collections.
Matomo is far more advanced than GoatCounter. If you want to extensively see what happens on your website, Matomo is the way to go. Like you can track how many users stay 5 minutes in your website. And also realize which posts they like more, see bounce rate and so on.
Both GoatCounter and Matomo are blocked by anti tracking protections of Firefox.
Edit: If you are not sure which one is the right option for you, you can try hosted GoatCounter and see if you need more data from your visitors.
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@andypiper @risottobias @neil @ConnyDuck My recommendation would definitely be Plausible, from past experience, when simple log analysis isn't an option.
@bodil @risottobias @neil @ConnyDuck thanks!
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For simple statistics I use #GoatCounter. It's simple and #GPDR compatible by default. I also have experience with #Matomo. It's not GPDR compatible by default. You have to change the settings to anonymize data collections.
Matomo is far more advanced than GoatCounter. If you want to extensively see what happens on your website, Matomo is the way to go. Like you can track how many users stay 5 minutes in your website. And also realize which posts they like more, see bounce rate and so on.
Both GoatCounter and Matomo are blocked by anti tracking protections of Firefox.
Edit: If you are not sure which one is the right option for you, you can try hosted GoatCounter and see if you need more data from your visitors.
@farooqkz I had not come across this one, thank you for the information
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Question: for web site metrics, what is a sound, open source, privacy-respecting option? goal is to be able to see which pages are hit, blog stats etc, that's all. Any views on e.g. Umami vs Matomo vs Offen (or alternatives)?
(for a hosted solution, a plan for non-profit usage would be good)
@andypiper Another good one is tinylytics. The free plan is limited to 1,000 hits per month, so keep that in mind. Not open source, but built by an active fediverse community member.
I second GoatCounter. Gives you just enough info.
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Question: for web site metrics, what is a sound, open source, privacy-respecting option? goal is to be able to see which pages are hit, blog stats etc, that's all. Any views on e.g. Umami vs Matomo vs Offen (or alternatives)?
(for a hosted solution, a plan for non-profit usage would be good)
@[email protected] I used SimpleAnalytics in the past. They talk a pretty big game about their privacy.
